I was tempted to do this in the car with my friend who didn’t know I was gay. That coulda been fun.
I love how their so casual about it in the second panel xD
Carter… you made my day ! XD
I love that no one really cares that he’s gay It’s so nice I wish everywhere was like that xD
“That’s what you get for being a ‘phobe, Ryan.”
YOU TELL ‘IM!
Carter’s finger on his shirt in the fourth panel! xD What a tease!
Eeeeeeet voilà. “Some easy drunk chicks”. No. If a girl is drunk, you shouldn’t get profit of her situation, you full bag of shit. There is no “easy” girl, you dumb fuck. And even if this is an exclamation of pure surprise, “Fag” is not the right word to use, you intolerant asshole. Jeez. This is why I hate people sometimes.
But yeah, you summoned the casual guy very well..
That’s the point
Pfft.. real people can be ten times worse than that… have you read youtube comments? It makes me sad…
Le gasp! I love how ‘phobe is contracted. Makes me feel like the world is getting better. Its awesome that discrimination stories are mellowing out and other stories can be told.
Same here! It really makes my day to see things like this coming to light :)
I love how he Carter repeats the ‘there’s a difference’ part xD
It’s his sitcom catchphrase
I love you Carter… so much.
“Don’t pretend like it doesn’t turn you on honey” best line.
“That’s what you get for being a ‘phobe, Joey.” I love this comic so much!!
Haha yeah fuck that guy
get fukin rekt
your comment and Dan’s face slayed me oml
I totally understand that this is supposed to be realistic to how teenage boys talk but good god, it’s only reminding me how much I hate teenage boys….
You were a teenage boy once. (Or girl) And to generalize people like that is just silly. Ever heard of Juvenoia?
HAHA ATTCKK THE HOMOPHOBESS
Hush… my parents are all homophobic. And I’m bi… and I don’t say anything.
That’s sad. Hope that situation changes.
Gee, thanks…
Um, that sounds a little sarcastic. But since you upvoted me I’ll assume it not. Remember there’s always the future that can be better!
Fuck Joey.
Carter is sly asf
oh look Dean Winchester is in this.
“Ohh, don’t pretend that doesn’t turn you on, honey.” Every time I read that I laugh
It’s too bad Dan Savage says this isn’t an appropriate way to deal with homophobes. https :// twitter.com / fakedansavage / status / 673976323530817536
I think this is a pity. It’d be nice to have some appropriate way to react that puts the onus of feeling unpleasantly on someone who became actively dickish instantly upon learning about your sexuality.
(I’d say “feeling unpleasant”, but that could as easily mean “feeling like being unpleasant to others” as “feeling disquieted or otherwise ideologically challenged due to the intolerance one exhibited”.)
Why would Carter respond “an appropriate way”? That would be out of character and it’s always awkward when writers change characters’ behaviour just to make a message :/
I’m not disparaging Carter’s action, not at all! He stayed in-character, and I was trying to say that I actually admired his reaction.
My comment was more from the idea that I think there needs to be something that can be done that’s socially acceptable and appropriate to shut down the people who act dickish upon learning about someone preferring sex in a manner that doesn’t match their own prejudices.
If you found yourself in Carter’s situation here, how would you shift the unpleasantness back onto the person who was dishing it out? Would it be appropriate to do so?
It’s more appropriate to show your distaste and utter intolerance of a phobes way of acting the way Carter did, it creates social exclusion which teaches others “this action is not acceptable within the community”. If more people acted in ways like Carter, expressing their distaste and how a phobes way of acting affects them, we would have a much larger influence on society and how phobes express their harmful beliefs. There would be less of an agressive approach phobes do, like the one Carter confronted if we as a community acted this way. Carter reacted appropriatly and in a very effective way.
As opposed to freaking out and punching him? This is a very clever and calculated way to deal with it. I like it. And it’s funny. Why shouldn’t he? It’s not like you can always afford to have a twenty minute-three hour debate about it, especially not as a teenager in a car full of teenagers.
Dan Savage also says that bisexual people don’t exist.
https://youtu.be/p2sIf_sVYuc “bisexuals don’t like to hear the truth…” Gay men don’t get to dictate my sexuality.
You: “He say’s that Bisexuals don’t exist.”
Literally the first words out of his mouth (in the video YOU linked no less): “Of course Bisexuality exists…”
Me: “Ummmmmm…?”
It’s condescending. He thinks it’s a transitional stage for most people when bi people make up more of the LGBT community than gay people do.
He’s not wrong though. He’s just speaking the truth. Do you know how many guys come out as Bi before they come out as gay? The guy isn’t being condescending he’s just stating a true fact. He’s not saying that all bisexuals are actually gay, he’s just saying that it’s a stereotype for a reason. I mean, at least try to comprehend what the mans point was before you use A VIDEO OF HIM SAYING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING as some sort of proof. He’s simply acknowledging the stereotype. He IS NOT implying that the stereotype is a universal truth.
And I say that as a bisexual dude. Do you know how many gay guys have rolled their eyes at me and said “uh huh, bisexual…riiiiiiight. I was bisexual too”. Like tomorrow I’m going to suddenly quit liking girls? But, I don’t think that’s what the guy was saying in his video. It wasn’t condescending. He was just talking about the stereotype in an analytical sense.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Believe it or not, it’s actually OK to acknowledge them.
Actually, at least going off Australian stats, as an Australian, men tend more to be gay than bi. Bisexual women however, are more common than lesbians.
He’s talking about people using it as a way to be less gay than gay. A halfway. Not denying it’s existence.
“Halfway gay” is REALLY offensive when you’re talking about bi people. We are not half gay.
Yes, I’m describing people who are gay using bisexuality as a way to feel less gay. I’m not saying you’re halfway gay, it’s not the terminology I would use. I’m simply using it to describe the point of the video, not you. Avoiding the fact you blatantly lied about the contents of the video in favour of complaining about terminology is dishonest. Also, it’s offensive to you, you don’t speak for every bisexual, I’m sure at least a few wouldn’t mind that description.
bc it would be out of character since its Carter we’re talking about here. does he really seem like a guy that would act appropriately?
First time Carter’s been genuinely SMOOTH, congrats!
And it’s like not with the person he’s trying to get with.
“Don’t pretend like it doesn’t turn you on, honey.” OMG I LOST IT
Everyone hates a Joey. But we have to understand a Joey.
Dang but The Anime Man isn’t a ‘phobe
joey can go fuck himself
fourth panel is me
Yeah, go give Joey a kiss! One of my friends is a homophobe too, but we we can openly talk about it without getting upset or angry at eachother. :D
There’s just no way in hell I’m coming out to her. XD
Joey go prob himself, psh.
Carter is me when someone calls me a f*g
Is everyone just going to ignore how he said “some easy drunk chick” ???!?!?!?!? like seriously, he sounds like a rapist!!!!
don’t get all sensitive here
they’re right.
joey is like the stereotypical kavanaugh high schooler sorry not sorry
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Hehe, and Carter turns on the “charm”~
I was tempted to do this in the car with my friend who didn’t know I was gay. That coulda been fun.
I love how their so casual about it in the second panel xD
Carter… you made my day ! XD
I love that no one really cares that he’s gay
It’s so nice
I wish everywhere was like that
xD
“That’s what you get for being a ‘phobe, Ryan.”
YOU TELL ‘IM!
Carter’s finger on his shirt in the fourth panel! xD What a tease!
Eeeeeeet voilà. “Some easy drunk chicks”. No. If a girl is drunk, you shouldn’t get profit of her situation, you full bag of shit. There is no “easy” girl, you dumb fuck. And even if this is an exclamation of pure surprise, “Fag” is not the right word to use, you intolerant asshole.
Jeez. This is why I hate people sometimes.
But yeah, you summoned the casual guy very well..
That’s the point
Pfft.. real people can be ten times worse than that… have you read youtube comments? It makes me sad…
Le gasp!
I love how ‘phobe is contracted. Makes me feel like the world is getting better. Its awesome that discrimination stories are mellowing out and other stories can be told.
Same here! It really makes my day to see things like this coming to light :)
I love how he Carter repeats the ‘there’s a difference’ part xD
It’s his sitcom catchphrase
I love you Carter… so much.
“Don’t pretend like it doesn’t turn you on honey” best line.
“That’s what you get for being a ‘phobe, Joey.”
I love this comic so much!!
Haha yeah fuck that guy
get fukin rekt
your comment and Dan’s face slayed me oml
I totally understand that this is supposed to be realistic to how teenage boys talk but good god, it’s only reminding me how much I hate teenage boys….
You were a teenage boy once. (Or girl) And to generalize people like that is just silly. Ever heard of Juvenoia?
HAHA ATTCKK THE HOMOPHOBESS
Hush… my parents are all homophobic. And I’m bi… and I don’t say anything.
That’s sad. Hope that situation changes.
Gee, thanks…
Um, that sounds a little sarcastic. But since you upvoted me I’ll assume it not. Remember there’s always the future that can be better!
Fuck Joey.
Carter is sly asf
oh look Dean Winchester is in this.
“Ohh, don’t pretend that doesn’t turn you on, honey.” Every time I read that I laugh
Every time I see this it reminds me of this…
What is this from?
Rain: http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/
It’s too bad Dan Savage says this isn’t an appropriate way to deal with homophobes. https :// twitter.com / fakedansavage / status / 673976323530817536
I think this is a pity. It’d be nice to have some appropriate way to react that puts the onus of feeling unpleasantly on someone who became actively dickish instantly upon learning about your sexuality.
(I’d say “feeling unpleasant”, but that could as easily mean “feeling like being unpleasant to others” as “feeling disquieted or otherwise ideologically challenged due to the intolerance one exhibited”.)
Why would Carter respond “an appropriate way”? That would be out of character and it’s always awkward when writers change characters’ behaviour just to make a message :/
I’m not disparaging Carter’s action, not at all! He stayed in-character, and I was trying to say that I actually admired his reaction.
My comment was more from the idea that I think there needs to be something that can be done that’s socially acceptable and appropriate to shut down the people who act dickish upon learning about someone preferring sex in a manner that doesn’t match their own prejudices.
If you found yourself in Carter’s situation here, how would you shift the unpleasantness back onto the person who was dishing it out? Would it be appropriate to do so?
It’s more appropriate to show your distaste and utter intolerance of a phobes way of acting the way Carter did, it creates social exclusion which teaches others “this action is not acceptable within the community”. If more people acted in ways like Carter, expressing their distaste and how a phobes way of acting affects them, we would have a much larger influence on society and how phobes express their harmful beliefs. There would be less of an agressive approach phobes do, like the one Carter confronted if we as a community acted this way. Carter reacted appropriatly and in a very effective way.
As opposed to freaking out and punching him? This is a very clever and calculated way to deal with it. I like it. And it’s funny. Why shouldn’t he? It’s not like you can always afford to have a twenty minute-three hour debate about it, especially not as a teenager in a car full of teenagers.
Dan Savage also says that bisexual people don’t exist.
[citation needed]
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=19402582
https://youtu.be/p2sIf_sVYuc
“bisexuals don’t like to hear the truth…”
Gay men don’t get to dictate my sexuality.
You: “He say’s that Bisexuals don’t exist.”
Literally the first words out of his mouth (in the video YOU linked no less): “Of course Bisexuality exists…”
Me: “Ummmmmm…?”
It’s condescending. He thinks it’s a transitional stage for most people when bi people make up more of the LGBT community than gay people do.
He’s not wrong though. He’s just speaking the truth. Do you know how many guys come out as Bi before they come out as gay? The guy isn’t being condescending he’s just stating a true fact. He’s not saying that all bisexuals are actually gay, he’s just saying that it’s a stereotype for a reason. I mean, at least try to comprehend what the mans point was before you use A VIDEO OF HIM SAYING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING as some sort of proof. He’s simply acknowledging the stereotype. He IS NOT implying that the stereotype is a universal truth.
And I say that as a bisexual dude. Do you know how many gay guys have rolled their eyes at me and said “uh huh, bisexual…riiiiiiight. I was bisexual too”. Like tomorrow I’m going to suddenly quit liking girls? But, I don’t think that’s what the guy was saying in his video. It wasn’t condescending. He was just talking about the stereotype in an analytical sense.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Believe it or not, it’s actually OK to acknowledge them.
Actually, at least going off Australian stats, as an Australian, men tend more to be gay than bi. Bisexual women however, are more common than lesbians.
He’s talking about people using it as a way to be less gay than gay. A halfway. Not denying it’s existence.
“Halfway gay” is REALLY offensive when you’re talking about bi people. We are not half gay.
Yes, I’m describing people who are gay using bisexuality as a way to feel less gay. I’m not saying you’re halfway gay, it’s not the terminology I would use. I’m simply using it to describe the point of the video, not you. Avoiding the fact you blatantly lied about the contents of the video in favour of complaining about terminology is dishonest. Also, it’s offensive to you, you don’t speak for every bisexual, I’m sure at least a few wouldn’t mind that description.
bc it would be out of character since its Carter we’re talking about here. does he really seem like a guy that would act appropriately?
First time Carter’s been genuinely SMOOTH, congrats!
And it’s like not with the person he’s trying to get with.
“Don’t pretend like it doesn’t turn you on, honey.” OMG I LOST IT
Everyone hates a Joey. But we have to understand a Joey.
Dang but The Anime Man isn’t a ‘phobe
joey can go fuck himself
fourth panel is me
Yeah, go give Joey a kiss!
One of my friends is a homophobe too, but we we can openly talk about it without getting upset or angry at eachother. :D
There’s just no way in hell I’m coming out to her. XD
Joey go prob himself, psh.
Carter is me when someone calls me a f*g
Is everyone just going to ignore how he said “some easy drunk chick” ???!?!?!?!? like seriously, he sounds like a rapist!!!!
don’t get all sensitive here
they’re right.
joey is like the stereotypical kavanaugh high schooler sorry not sorry
ThErEs A dIfFeReNcE
Fucking Joey